This is an old K study. I tried my best. Featuring a slight hook in the bell AND in the profile, reverse-tapering (thicker towards the edge, thinner close to the bell), deep lathing grooves. Doesn't sit perfectly flat. Cluster-hammering on bell. Sound is really sweet. Loud, complex, roaring - or how ever you like to describe it. Since it's thin (and flat-ish) around the bell: expect some barking seals ready to tune in, when played in that zone. Played on your traditional sweet spot, though, it really shines. Love it! This cymbal kinda needs an experienced drummer who can tame all this craziness!